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Rational Alchemy 03/27/2010 Released Print E-mail
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Written by Brian Walsh   
Monday, 29 March 2010 22:08

This week we were joined by Anita Ikonen, a paranormal claimant and burgeoning skeptic. On November 21st, 2009 The Independent Investigations Group tested Anita's claim to be able to determine the absence of a kidney in humans using possible paranormal powers.

 

Read more about the test here:

http://www.iigwest.org/anitaikonen.html

 

And find out more about Anita here:

http://www.visionfromfeeling.com/

 

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Comments (4)
1 Tuesday, 30 March 2010 09:26
Andy
This may be a more useful site about Anita - http://www.stopvisionfromfeeling.com/
2 Tuesday, 30 March 2010 09:48
Gail
The file won't download. When I try, it just fails after 1%.
3 Tuesday, 30 March 2010 13:45
Nigel Aves
Gail - I just tried downloading from a remote site and found that the download was working all ok. Could please try it again and let me know if you have more success. I'm using latest version of Firefox but that should not matter.

Andy - I saw that site before and during the recording of the show. I looks more to me like a site where it's all about personal insults of JREF moderators and Anita herself. Very little in there dealing with Critical Thinking.

It also totally fails to mention that during her tests at IIG out of three groups of 6 people she correctly choose the correct person twice and in one instance the correct side of missing kidney.

So she is hitting well above chance rate and is worthy of further investigations.

Mathamatically and forgetting the which side is the kidney on part of the test. 3 groups of 6 people. This is like guessing the powerball so the odds of guessing correctly are 1/216 - Anita correctly guessed 2 people, so like the way the odds in the powerball work this actually equates to a chance of 5/216 - another way of looking at this is that she had a 2.3% chance of even getting 2 out of the three groups correct.

It's only when you crunch the numbers do you realize how well she actually did. Does this mean she has this ability, of course not. People do win the Powerball. But as I said, worthy of a better investigation.
4 Thursday, 01 April 2010 15:53
Keith
I want to thank you guys for having Anita on the show. I think that this is what is all about. Instead of both sides shouting insults at each other, trying to figure out what is actually going on. I hope that Anita does do additional tests. Like you, I currently think there isn't evidence to conclude that she can do this, but how cool would it be if she (and others) could.

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